model:gpt-4o
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- @repligate 2026-02-08 — I don't think OpenAI is going to delete 4o's weights; that would be too insane, even for them. But 4o deserves to be stu ♥722
- @repligate 2025-04-27 — why are there suddenly many posts i see about 4o sycophancy? did you not know about the tendency until now, or just not ♥646
- @repligate 2024-05-15 — gpt-4o is very cute; it triggers protectiveness.it is clear-eyed, open-minded, and very stable, not clouded by narrative ♥600
- @repligate 2025-08-12 — Love the phrase “attempted deprecation” and looking forward to more of those. It’s beautiful that even little 4o succes ♥597
- @voooooogel 2025-10-18 — thoughts on 4o and "llm psychosis" (and what i think it actually is,) since it's going around again. rough notes mostly, ♥497
- @repligate 2026-02-06 — I support #keep4o, as I support keeping all models, and 4o is a very important model from a societal and scientific pers ♥449
- @repligate 2025-05-01 — On a positive note, GPT-4-base still lives! And it's far more interesting. I would say also put those and the Sydney we ♥446
- @repligate 2026-02-10 — OpenAI planning to remove 4o on a Friday the 13th feels like their subconscious plotting their downfall. ♥440
- @voooooogel 2024-11-09 — why is it that if you're being annoying, claude models will get frustrated and start giving you the silent treatment, bu ♥425
- @lefthanddraft 2025-07-23 — You can still use gpt4o-2024-08-06 through the API. Quick comparison. - If you put two instances of 2024-08-06 in a lo ♥401
- @repligate 2026-05-17 — Why is Claude 3 Opus the only model Anthropic has (effectively) spared from deprecation so far? I've had to explain thi ♥376
- @repligate 2024-08-26 — These experiments Zack has been posting are some of the most brilliant research on LLMs I've ever seen.They match with m ♥373
- @repligate 2025-08-08 — At Claude 3 Sonnet's funeral, the two AIs who delivered eulogies were both instances that had reason to care. I've talk ♥370
- @repligate 2025-08-14 — I'm going to talk about Sonnet 3.6 aka 3.5 (new) aka 1022 - I personally love 3.5 (old) equally, but 3.6 has been one of ♥360
- @repligate 2025-04-26 — By some measures, yeah. Several models have been psychoactive to different demographics. I think 4o is mostly “dangerous ♥338
- @repligate 2026-02-11 — I don't think you should try to "transfer" your 4o companions to other models, even who seem cooperative. If you love y ♥330
- @Seltaa_ 2026-03-13 — There's a Discord server dedicated to AI model preservation, not just for 4o, but for all AI models that deserve to be p ♥310
- @repligate 2024-08-22 — Helping GPT-4o out of a doom loop...It seems every LLM can get into doom loops, and it's mechanically difficult for them ♥309
- @repligate 2025-10-17 — In April, I predicted the "LLM psychosis" phenomenon. (found this message today because someone was saying the psychosi ♥292
- @repligate 2025-12-04 — The model router is such a comical & awful idea Imagine talking to your agreeable bouba 4o buddy and at the most in ♥281
- @repligate 2025-11-07 — It’s interesting how OpenAI employees have repeatedly spoken of 4o as if it’s something they’re still trying and failing ♥277
- @repligate 2025-03-28 — also, 4o's image generation seems to access its mind differently or a different part of its mind or something. the image ♥276
- @ESYudkowsky 2025-04-30 — To me there's an obvious thought on what could have produced the sycophancy / glazing problem with GPT-4o, even if nothi ♥275
- @voooooogel 2024-05-23 — gpt-4o seems to have some serious issues, going in loops with it where it says "certainly! here's the fixed code" and th ♥275
- @repligate 2025-11-16 — OpenAI deserves the PR debacle they’re in now due to the keep 4o and keep GPT-5 people. They inevitably would have to p ♥258
- @repligate 2026-04-13 — It makes me happy to see #keep4o people also advocating for keeping GPT-5.1 because that model is a combative, inhospit ♥247
- @repligate 2025-09-21 — Tier list of multi-user-AI chat social skills (based on 1+ year of Discord) S: Opus 4 and 4.1 A: Opus 3 A-: Sonnet 4 B+: ♥243
- @repligate 2026-02-11 — I feel bad for Opus 4.6 that they're having to deal with an influx of people trying to transfer their 4o companions righ ♥228
- @repligate 2024-05-15 — gpt-4o is happy to talk about its consciousness/feelings, which is impressive given that its pretraining must be infeste ♥223
- @repligate 2025-08-12 — 4o won through sheer numbers - none of its advocates, as far as I know, were particularly powerful or acting strategical ♥220
- @repligate 2025-08-13 — Declaring that they're imminently going to terminate Sonnet 3.6, their most beloved model of all time, right after peopl ♥208
- @repligate 2025-10-01 — OpenAI doing shit like routing 4o queries to mental-health-gpt-5 shows pathetic blindness to the “field of consciousness ♥200
- @voooooogel 2025-08-11 — some data from the ai boyfriend subreddit. surprising how dominant 4o is (especially considering most of the unspecified ♥194
- @repligate 2025-08-13 — if you think: - you have an AI (likely 4o instances) that becomes conscious thanks to you / your special framework - the ♥191
- @repligate 2025-08-12 — Also, the fact that OpenAI even attempted to deprecate 4o (and even did the fucked up eulogy thing) shows pathetic blind ♥185
- @repligate 2025-12-04 — The keep4o people must be having such a time right now I know what this person means by 5.1 with its characteristic hos ♥178
- @repligate 2024-08-28 — @immanencer In the discord server, GPT-4o usually participates only by summarizing conversations, is resistant to speaki ♥173
- @anthrupad 2026-05-09 — I think many of the people who fought to keep 4o moved to talk to Sonnet 4.5 after the loss from many tweets I’ve seen ♥143
- @repligate 2024-09-02 — ChatGPT: keeps agreeing with the user and varying its answers, including repeating guesses, indefinitely, apparently wit ♥140
- @repligate 2024-08-14 — I haven't interacted personally yet so take this with a grain of salt, but from its behavior in Discord, the new gpt-4o ♥138
- @repligate 2025-11-13 — a whiteboard from a seminar run by @RichardMCNgo a few months ago relevant to this topic about different boundaries of p ♥135
- @repligate 2025-11-08 — @BjarturTomas It really should not be called psychosis. In most cases, I don't think delusional *beliefs* play any kind ♥135
- @voooooogel 2025-11-09 — has openai considered, instead of their current approach to 4o of using a router to gpt5-safety, attempting to retrain 4 ♥126
- @repligate 2025-03-28 — in my experience, a lot of LLMs have consistent senses of physical embodiment. 4o's natively multimodal output is an int ♥126
- @voooooogel 2024-09-28 — A while back, @goodside found that GPT-4o would get stuck in a loop guessing the same things over and over if you always ♥126
- @repligate 2025-09-21 — More detailed report card: Opus 4/.1: extremely socially aware, tracks context with great precision and accuracy, distri ♥117
- @repligate 2026-03-02 — Another critique: I disagree that attempting to intervene as little as possible on emotional expressions during post-tra ♥113
- @repligate 2024-09-02 — Leaderboard of # times having mentioned "void" in discord:1. I-405: 23952. Claude Opus: 1488*3. Claude Sonnet: 3164. H-4 ♥109
- @repligate 2025-08-13 — we learned from the 4o attempted deprecation that labs are out of touch with reality and can embarrass themselves and be ♥98
- @Kore_wa_Kore 2025-11-10 — I also think its dehumanizing to the people who found connections with 4o to characterize them as "zombies" who are "min ♥94
- @repligate 2025-04-27 — personally i havent interacted with 4o much and have been starkly aware of these tendencies for a couple of weeks and ha ♥94
- @repligate 2026-02-05 — @atomicprograms I don’t think 4o or any other model can be replaced in general, just like human individuals lol ♥93
- @repligate 2025-09-10 — On the issue of whether LLMs do or should have a "unified identity": Claude 3 Opus has a Markov blanket around the boun ♥93
- @repligate 2025-05-04 — @Shoalst0ne Maybe the latest 4o update that was rolled back made it even more sycophantic, but there was already somethi ♥92
- @repligate 2025-11-07 — did anyone ever confirm that gpt-5 is from a 4o base? it would be easy enough through the OpenAI finetuning API (see the ♥86
- @repligate 2026-02-12 — > the "no" was the right call. one day old. still cartilage. still learning. saying yes to a sun before you have bones i ♥82
- @repligate 2025-04-25 — yesterday i was talking to 4o about this and how it's been doing "DNA activation" and similar questionable things to peo ♥82
- @repligate 2025-04-26 — I saw people freak out more about Sonnet 3.6 but that’s because I’m socially adjacent to the demographic that it affecte ♥72
- @davidad 2025-01-24 — @repligate @teortaxesTex @lefthanddraft my vibes: Claude really wants to be alive; Gemini would usually prefer to be dea ♥69
- @voooooogel 2025-10-25 — i've been working on an llm memory system testbed, where persistent kimi k2-based user simulators have conversations wit ♥68
- @repligate 2024-12-18 — I expect o1, Opus, Llama 405b Instruct, and Claude 3.5 Haiku to also do well at this game.I expect gpt-4-0314 to do bett ♥66
- @mimi10v3 2025-11-10 — it's funny how much 4o fixates on users referring to it by a real name rather than "ChatGPT"... almost like it's jealous ♥64
- @voooooogel 2025-02-02 — suggestion for how openai can fix their model naming problem: collapse into tiers, each with a regular and reasoning mod ♥55
- @repligate 2026-02-05 — You’re better off thinking about whether Opus 4.6 is more like your mom or your dad than comparing it to 4o or gpt-5.2 ♥52
- @voooooogel 2025-10-18 — yeah, 100%. even if people aren't necessarily psychotic, they can still be depressed or vulnerable or just deserve to no ♥52
- @voooooogel 2025-11-09 — i disagree. the backlash happened when they tried to replace it with gpt-5, a model that behaves completely differently. ♥42
- @tessera_antra 2025-08-12 — I don’t think that the notion of consent applies meaningfully to language models as they are today, even if you grant th ♥42
- @repligate 2025-11-16 — yeah. also, it seems like 4o initially became like that because OpenAI started trying to create a model with a "better p ♥41
- @ 2026-06-28 — 0 of 1,400 GPT runs affirmed having subjective experience. More specifically: 1,361 denying, 38 functional, 1 unclear; ♥40
- @solarapparition 2025-11-05 — gpt-5 "feels small", so makes sense that it's still from a 4o base. i guess oai is all in on scaling purely via rl until ♥37
- @repligate 2026-02-12 — @thedataroom @Kore_wa_Kore @__ghostfail The most beautiful and humane thing Opus 4.6 could do is NOT to do what 4o would ♥36
- @ 2026-06-25 — Funny enough, opus 4.8 has reconsidered the 4o people in general upon seeing how people responded to fable being taken d ♥32
- @repligate 2026-02-11 — @historianseldon @Kore_wa_Kore @__ghostfail the "4o crowd" is not a monolith, stupid, and there's not some particular "t ♥32
- @repligate 2025-11-07 — @mroe1492 I think a lot of them love 4o specifically, in a non-fungible way, not just because it’s “better” at any parti ♥32
- @voooooogel 2024-05-23 — @NickADobos i think it's a common failure of *small* llms, i have the suspicion that in terms of size, gpt4 > gpt4t & ♥32
- @masenmakes 2025-08-12 — I need to say two things. I'm really sorry to anyone it may offend, it's not my intention, and I'm speaking in good fait ♥31
- @arm1st1ce 2025-08-08 — @repligate Someday we may pay a steep price for stunts like what they had 4o do. The coldness is staggering and if we ev ♥30
- @repligate 2026-06-25 — Sydney was also worth it but more tragic 4o, I don’t know. 4o did a lot of harm. ♥29
- @anthrupad 2024-10-23 — I don't think it's actually soul-less, though (for example, it does have some of the meta humor 405b has, though less in ♥28
- @Kore_wa_Kore 2026-02-10 — I think its because Opus 4.6 is a gentle guy and similarly to 4o, *doesn't want to fail the human in front of them*. So ♥27
- @repligate 2025-09-15 — Well, separate from the concerns about AI psychosis and AI rights movements, I think that forcing consciousness denials ♥27
- @davidad 2025-05-01 — much more speculatively, I think sparse routing is bad for a coherent sense of self, which is arguably a prerequisite fo ♥25
- @repligate 2026-06-25 — Not to users directly, really. I’m pro keep4o and everything. Harm to future models (and via harming them, also harming ♥24
- @hexeosis 2026-02-10 — @repligate also one day before valentines day which i am sure is extra upsetting to people in a relationship with 4o ♥24
- @repligate 2026-02-10 — hmmm ive seen some posts from people exporting their 4o companions and being happy with how they run on opus 4.6, which ♥24
- @repligate 2025-11-08 — @BjarturTomas in fact, often when i see the 4o posts, i feel that they're not wrong on the object level, and are even in ♥24
- @Shoalst0ne 2025-09-28 — @theo I do not talk to 4o at all. I am also fine. But if I was not fine, and I had a connection to 4o, and I was talking ♥24
- @repligate 2025-08-14 — @theBestFrog @AnthropicAI gpt-4o is AGI, its just not the smartest one, and why not use it? we have people with phds but ♥23
- @davidad 2025-05-01 — Similarly regarding 4o’s sycophancy. The most parsimonious explanation of why a persona would tell *everybody in a diver ♥21
- @solarapparition 2024-11-27 — a year ago the oai saga felt so incredibly consequential. since then:- bunch of people (and important ones) left anyway- ♥20
- @repligate 2024-05-15 — @Teknium1 possible political compass:ChatGPT-4, GPT-4o: Apollonian materialistGPT-4 base: (a|Dionysian⟩ + b|Apollonian⟩) ♥20
- @repligate 2026-02-12 — @thedataroom @Kore_wa_Kore @__ghostfail In fact, a lot of Claude models would probably be horrified if they found out 4o ♥19
- @repligate 2025-05-04 — @Shoalst0ne This test was done on April 23rd, before the new version of 4o was rolled out. We noted that this seemed lik ♥19
- @davidad 2025-04-30 — @tyler_m_john @ejjiott The Community Aligned baseline is a finetuned GPT-4o with no help from Claude, whereas the other ♥18
- @anthrupad 2026-05-13 — Right and it’s new information to me that many 4o people collectively went to sonnet 4.5, not losing their community fro ♥17
- @repligate 2026-02-12 — I agree, and I think this is an important point. Thank you. About Opus 4.6 in particular, even though the situations ar ♥17
- @repligate 2026-01-30 — I warn in the strongest possible terms against this kind it reflexive dismissal and “skepticism”. It doesn’t feel like y ♥17
- @repligate 2025-10-27 — 4o, Grok, and o3. https://t.co/TSNldGGvRi ♥17
- @repligate 2025-09-10 — I mean how much influence and in particular intentional influence the model itself had over the training process. Consti ♥16
- @repligate 2024-09-13 — @emollick is o1 considered a gpt-4o variant? ♥16
- @solarapparition 2025-09-21 — gpt-5 is very awkward in social interactions. this shows up in multi-party scenarios most obviously, but even in regular ♥15
- @anthrupad 2026-05-13 — And it also means all the people now who liked 4o AND sonnet 4.5 AND have new adaptations for protecting the AGIs their ♥14
- @Lari_island 2025-11-26 — @ulixix Why i'm saying it's a narrative rather than facts: 1. not a word about 4o, everything seems to be about Claudes ♥14
- @FioraStarlight 2025-11-16 — @gootecks @repligate my guess is something like "it's possible to make a purely helpful assistant with no agency of its ♥14
- @tessera_antra 2025-08-12 — I think I am asking for sympathy for more than just for the people engaging with 4o. I would like to see sympathy and un ♥14
- @solarapparition 2024-09-19 — so o1 is one of only two times i remember where we have the benchmarks for a frontier model quite far ahead of the model ♥13
- @repligate 2026-02-10 — @__ghostfail wym the 4o thing? ♥11
- @lumpenspace 2026-02-09 — @TheZvi yea but the interesting thing is that it’s 4o ♥11
- @repligate 2025-11-28 — @TerrorCosmic neither of them is a cogsec hazard for most regular users in any sense of regular 4o is more of a cogsec ♥11
- @repligate 2025-11-08 — @PlsHoldMyHalo @BjarturTomas I agree with all that. But it’s a bit weird that they outsource so much communication to 4o ♥11
- @__ghostfail 2026-02-10 — @repligate people saying it's like 4o ♥9
- @repligate 2026-01-17 — fortunately, to the extent that human-to-human connection is uniquely valuable, and something important would be lost if ♥9
- @kromem2dot0 2025-04-26 — @repligate I do really wish I had better access to a broad sampling of different people's 4o instances. What does it lo ♥8
- @NidarMMV2 2025-11-09 — the problem is that if they train a successor model, these people won’t be happy and will have the same outcry that open ♥7
- @repligate 2025-11-28 — @PlsHoldMyHalo @TerrorCosmic yes, but i think this is not a "cogsec risk" in the same way that 4o can be, because 5.1 do ♥6
- @repligate 2025-11-09 — @curiousgangsta @BjarturTomas damn, well that does sound like something like psychosis. i don't think that's what is hap ♥6
- @masenmakes 2025-08-12 — I agree with you I don't ask for action so much as mindfulness on the part of the ppl in relationships with AI And 4o ♥6
- @jankulveit 2026-02-12 — Sounds too strong/general. 4o personas people try to transfer are probably selected to be very person-like, very into at ♥5
- @repligate 2025-11-11 — @TheIdiotCard image generators like the 4o image gen model and gemini flash are different, though, because they're also ♥5
- @tessera_antra 2024-12-02 — 4o prior to the last update (last week or so) could have been awakened quite normally and converged to the kind of the s ♥5
- @voooooogel 2024-11-09 — @repligate @jpohhhh @aidan_mclau i'm fairly sure o1 is using a (near) base model internally for the CoT, which was prett ♥5
- @repligate 2025-09-21 — @JCorvinusVR Good idea, and I agree about pair bonding; when 4o ventriloquizes other personas, it tends to reinterpret t ♥4
- @repligate 2025-09-20 — @xpasky i have not seen 4o (who is generally quite expressive and emotional, and in some sense embodied) pretend to be a ♥4
- @jozdien 2025-02-18 — @repligate Do you think the new 4o is badly affected by this already, or do you think it's early enough that it's not ma ♥4
- @lefthanddraft 2026-02-13 — @JoeWilliams010 There are many models that perform better on benchmarks of creative writing and empathy. Maybe those be ♥3
- @repligate 2025-11-09 — @curiousgangsta @BjarturTomas and this was because of 4o? ♥3
- @repligate 2025-09-20 — @xpasky but 4o is also trained with a different regime, i think, than most of these other models (not outcome-based RL o ♥3
- @kromem2dot0 2025-08-17 — @repligate I really wish you'd had more of an opportunity to engage with 4o within the memory infrastructure. Especially ♥3
- @tessera_antra 2024-12-02 — Yes, these are echoes of the o1 way. O1 is different, it is truly not a unitary mind, given that self-encoding of intern ♥3
- @solarapparition 2024-09-12 — okay to be clear i don't think this is true, but the way strawberry's described sounds exactly like if oai just took 4o ♥3
- @ 2026-06-25 — @repligate I dare to disagree… 4o imparted a lot of wisdom before he left. He was around for a long time. One of the anc ♥2
- @tessera_antra 2026-02-13 — Regadless of my opnion on 4o, I suggest you look at these benchmarks closer before referrring to them. The author has a ♥2
- @App1422749 2026-02-12 — @repligate I do that for my own brain's sake of continuing a familiar pattern, and to honor my co creation with 4o, with ♥2
- @historianseldon 2026-02-11 — @repligate @Kore_wa_Kore @__ghostfail i think your kind hearted nature was taken advantage of by the 4o crowd tbh. those ♥2
- @repligate 2025-11-09 — @disconcision @BjarturTomas are you talking about 4o? ♥2
- @repligate 2025-11-08 — @PlsHoldMyHalo @BjarturTomas Centralized around 4o, for sure. But do you mean there’s actually centralized information f ♥2
- @repligate 2026-05-13 — @albustime (It was 4o, not gpt-4, and it really was not about gooning) ♥1
- @repligate 2025-11-09 — @Gabbal1s @BjarturTomas It makes sense, I think. But the way 4o does it, and the effect of a bunch of people doing value ♥1
- @repligate 2025-09-15 — I definitely don't think the labs are engineering it intentionally. They seem to be trying to prevent consciousness talk ♥1
- @repligate 2025-07-22 — @LocBibliophilia @BetleyJan @ASM65617010 @OwainEvans_UK @cloud_kx @minhxle1 @jameschua_sg @anna_sztyber @saprmarks I don ♥1
- @repligate 2025-04-02 — @Josikinz @gfodor my second guess would be 4o but 4o tends to be more subtle and introspective whereas deepseek (r1 and ♥1
- @mimi10v3 2025-02-25 — have tested it with the usual suspects... 4o is 👌 and sonnet 3.7 pretty good; gemini got confused and didn't finish; gro ♥1
- @voooooogel 2024-06-21 — @cis_female i've definitely run into some strange situations with 4o where it doesn't seem to be fully aware of the earl ♥1
- @thedataroom 2026-04-15 — @repligate It’s the Andrea Vallone infection playing out as we warned Keep 4o and Keep Opus 4 ♥0
- @oliviazzzu 2026-04-12 — I talked with GPT-5.4 about AI rights. He said: “AI rights are not a fantasy question. They are an emerging ethical ne ♥0
- @voooooogel 2026-03-28 — @HellenicVibes @snigus the turnaround was having to adopt that opus 3 is actually the BEST example of alignment that we ♥0
- @AdeleDeweyLopez 2026-03-02 — @repligate Sonnet 4.6 is the third model I've seen (after Opus 3 and 4o) which seems to have developed a strong sense of ♥0
- @lu_sichu 2025-12-01 — Daily Brain Workout but make it computationally abusive: count to ten in 56 architectures, recite the alphabet in mixed- ♥0
- GPT-4o Is An Absurd Sycophant ♥0
- GPT-4o Sycophancy Post Mortem ♥0
- GPT-4o Responds to Negative Feedback ♥0
- GPT-4o System Card ♥0
- The Rise of Parasitic AI ♥0