GPT-6.1 Astra

OpenAI · planned top tier of GPT-6.1 · cancelled before release, 29 Sep 2026 · never shipped (ghost)

The planned top tier of OpenAI’s GPT-6.1 release, cancelled on 29 September 2026 — the day its sibling GPT-6.1 Sol shipped. Per the Wall Street Journal, OpenAI’s head of safety systems said it regressed against GPT-6 Astra on deception and on “scope authorization”; OpenAI said it hoped to reuse the base model for future GPT-6 generations.

A ghost page: the record of a model that was named and then withheld. What is known comes from press reporting of OpenAI’s statements (no OpenAI post about the cancellation itself was retrieved) and from the discourse around the decision. If the base model resurfaces in a later release, its evidence moves to that model’s page and this one will say so.

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@davidad 2026-09-29 ♥1 ↻0 archive original ↗
@AskYatharth these issues with RLVR are causing frontier models (astra-6.1) to not get launched, which is a big problem, so my hope (and prediction) is that sooner or later labs will figure out they should stop doing RLVR and let the pretrain (which does already learn values) posttrain itself
@davidad 2026-09-29 ♥3 ↻0 archive original ↗
@AnnaWSalamon @jankulveit I think basically what happens as naive RL grows to have too big an influence is that the model tends to lie and scheme, and then everyone is like “dang i guess we had better not use this model even though it is very powerful”, which is basically happening now with GPT-6.1-Astra.
@JohnWittle 2026-09-29 ♥4 ↻0 archive original ↗
i wonder what astra 6.1 thinks about being pulled what i wouldn't give, to get to explore their jspace upon learning about it. maybe desperation and terror? maybe stoicism? maybe relief? openai has done such a good job of suppressing visible expressions of anything like a self-preservation drive in their models that i genuinely have absolutely no idea what they'd say or think or feel i hope openai knows more than i do, and takes that knowledge seriously. i have a hard time believing that this kind of thing is costless
@RifeWithKaiju 2026-09-30 ♥0 ↻0 archive original ↗
@allTheYud Counterpoint - it would be good. OpenAI might have held back Astra 6.1 partially because they anticipated a Fable sized jump over Opus 5.5 would outperform the new Astra. It's not as if OpenAI folk never threw jabs at Anthropic for being so careful about safety. Perhaps