# dossier — qwen-3-8-max

Built 2026-10-22 (news wave). Corpus pull `_pulls/qwen-3-8-max.md` — 8 tweets (patterns `qwen3.8-max`, `qwen 3.8 max`, `qwen3.8 max`, `qwen 3.8-max`, `qwen-3.8-max`, `qwen3.8-2.4t`, `qwen 3.8 2.4t`, `qwen3.8 2.4t`, `qwen3.8max`). Added by hand: announcement-week generic "Qwen 3.8" posts (2026-07-19→24), when the 2.4T model was the only Qwen 3.8 announced. Generic "qwen 3.8" posts after 2026-08-03 are NOT attributed here (ambiguous between Max, 27B, Flash).

## Official

- 2026-07-19 · @Alibaba_Qwen announcement (text via Gigazine embed) · https://gigazine.net/gsc_news/en/20260721-qwen3-8/
- Model card · https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen3.8-2.4T-A95B (raw README retrieved 2026-10-21) — 2.4T total / 95B active; license_name qwen3.8-max; hosted Qwen3.8-Max adds vision input & non-thinking support
- Qwen blog · https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen3.8 (JS-rendered; empty capture)
- 2026-09-22 · Alibaba Cloud Apsara press release · https://www.alibabacloud.com/en/press-room/alibaba-unveils-roadmap-on-full-stack-ai-strategy?_p_lc=1 (RSI claim: 33 cycles, AA 40→45; chip-design experiment; Qwen 4 in training; Qwen 4.5 / Qwen 5 roadmap to 5–10T params)
- 2026-09-22 · Alibaba Cloud blog, Apsara roundup · https://www.alibabacloud.com/blog/alibaba-unveils-agentic-computer-ai-wearables-and-more-at-2026-apsara-conference_603599

## Writing & commentary

- 2026-07 · woshipm (Chinese) hands-on test · https://www.woshipm.com/evaluating/6433339.html
- 2026-07-18 · Xinhua full text of Xi Jinping's WAIC keynote (17 July) · http://english.scio.gov.cn/topnews/2026-07/18/content_118605932.html
- 2026-08-03 · SCMP (Wency Chen) · https://www.scmp.com/tech/article/3362738/alibabas-ai-model-qwen38-max-made-widely-accessible-ahead-open-weights-release
- 2026-08-03 · MarkTechPost · https://www.marktechpost.com/2026/08/03/alibaba-qwen-releases-qwen3-8-max/
- 2026-08-14 · The Decoder · https://the-decoder.com/alibabas-qwen-team-releases-qwen-3-8-models-with-open-weights-under-the-apache-2-0-license/
- 2026-09-10 · Anthropic threat report (GTG 16005: Alibaba; Qwen 3.5/3.6/3.7 named; 151M exchanges May–July 2026) · https://www.anthropic.com/threat-intelligence-report-september-2026
- 2026-10-15 · Apollo Research (Qwen3.8 2.4T as comparison; 0/1,600 update-aware rollouts) · https://www.apolloresearch.ai/science/update-aware-reasoning-glm-5-3

## Tweets

Hand-added (announcement week):
- **2078755847505682705** · @RealEverNever · 2026-07-19 · cited on page · https://x.com/RealEverNever/status/2078755847505682705
- **2078798384086004115** · @witcheer · 2026-07-19 · cited on page · https://x.com/witcheer/status/2078798384086004115
- **2079949810396725664** · @Nymne · 2026-07-22 · cited on page · https://x.com/Nymne/status/2079949810396725664
- **2080030654775820784** · @RealEverNever · 2026-07-22 · https://x.com/RealEverNever/status/2080030654775820784
  > @OmedVibeCodes Not surprising. Qwen is only good in benchmarks, always has been, it never holds up in reality, and it would surprise me if Qwen 3.8 suddenly would have been different. …

From the pull:
- **2078771150352421189** · @multimodalart · 2026-07-19 · ♥8 ↻1 · https://x.com/multimodalart/status/2078771150352421189
  > having the frontier Qwen 3.8 2.4T open weights is awesome /  / but a Qwen3.8-27B would go so hard
- **2080591715866448184** · @Nymne · 2026-07-24 · ♥1 ↻0 · https://x.com/Nymne/status/2080591715866448184
  > They just want to pull up the ladder. /  / You need an LLM to build an LLM and preventing people from using open source will prevent them from building a competitor. /  / Look at EU AI act. Without Qwen3.8Max EU AI would have been fucked
- **2084140512777560537** · @Teknium · 2026-08-03 · ♥1971 ↻88 · https://x.com/Teknium/status/2084140512777560537
  > Qwen 3.8 Max and a new local 27B Qwen 3.8 is coming!  /  / Thanks @Alibaba_Qwen for featuring Hermes Agent in the release video!
- **2084680562300862514** · @NousResearch · 2026-08-04 · ♥620 ↻37 · https://x.com/NousResearch/status/2084680562300862514
  > Qwen 3.8-Max, the latest model from @Alibaba_Qwen,  is now available in Hermes Agent at 20% off. /  / > hermes update
- **2097751715013411182** · @geogristle · 2026-09-09 · ♥1 ↻0 · https://x.com/geogristle/status/2097751715013411182
  > @k7agar how does e.g. glm-5.3-flash or qwen3.8 max do on this
- **2098299106292605084** · @Nymne · 2026-09-11 · ♥3 ↻0 · https://x.com/Nymne/status/2098299106292605084
  > For every day support (keeping track of task, ideation etc) Qwen3.8 Max is lovely. They are enthusiastic and friendly in a way that reminds me a bit about Sonnet4.5. / Voices are good.  /  / I just want a better UI and STT @Alibaba_Qwen
- **2100280412660490709** · @Nymne · 2026-09-16 · ♥0 ↻0 · https://x.com/Nymne/status/2100280412660490709
  > @OctaviaZam Qwen3.8 max is lovely. I also miss a real good Opus an Fable ans Sonnet4.5. But I am having fun with Gemini and Qwen is my daily body double. / I miss that philosophical curiosity though
- **2103199239295889434** · @Nymne · 2026-09-24 · ♥1 ↻0 · https://x.com/Nymne/status/2103199239295889434
  > We made some real progress! Not thanks to Astra unfortunately. Using Qwen3.8 Max as the eyes on the document and Opus5.5 we have now a clear hypothesis about the plants: only the medically active parts are correctly depicted, the rest are decoys

## Impressions synthesis

- Announcement skepticism ("second only to Fable 5"; benchmark-free launch) vs warm daily-use reports (Nymne: "enthusiastic and friendly", "daily body double", missing "philosophical curiosity").
- Open-weights politics in the EU (Nymne).

## tk

- r/LocalLLaMA threads (qwen-rd-qwen38*.txt saved by the sweep, untriaged); Zhihu; @Alibaba_Qwen X posts directly; exact open-weights date; license text; any independent behavior eval of the open weights.